Episode 11

How To Stop Being The “Department of NO” And Earn Trust At The Leadership Table with Dr. Heidi Gardner

If you want to move beyond being seen as the department of “no,” this conversation is for you.

Most legal teams are fighting a similar battle. They want influence, they want trust, and they want a seat at the strategy table. But siloed cultures and broken communication keep pulling them back.

In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Heidi Gardner, a force in the world of collaboration and leadership. Heidi is a Distinguished Fellow at Harvard Law School and CEO of research/advisory firm, Gardner & Co. Heidi also has had two Washington Post best sellers, just to name a few things that make this conversation not to be missed…

When it comes to understanding how professionals can stop tripping over silos and start working smarter, together, Heidi is the real deal.

So if you want to step into the role of strategic collaborator, who shapes the direction of the business, don’t miss this episode.

Covered in this episode:

  • How in-house lawyers can flip the narrative and become growth enablers.
  • The causes behind mistrust between legal departments and the rest of the business.
  • Turning “no” into a tool for alignment rather than friction.
  • Communicating legal advice in a way that influences decisions.
  • Translating legal risks into strategic value.
  • Building trust across departments.
  • Future-proofing legal teams.
  • The surprising way AI can strengthen collaboration inside legal teams.
  • And more…

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Beyond The Fine Print: The Tech Law Podcast
The tech law podcast for in-house counsel helping simplify digital laws and answer the major questions facing lawyers today.

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Rory O'Keeffe

Commercial & AI-Tech Lawyer | EU & UK | Founder - RMOK Legal | Host of Beyond The Fine Print